issue12

EMUSIC-L Digest                                      Volume 34, Issue 12

This issue's topics: Miscellaneous
	
	Classical Music
	EMUSIC-L Rules
	Nick got published (3 messages)
	Some humor (was: Creating, then composing.)
	WAKEMAN (4 messages)
	Software and Hardware Problems... (3 messages)



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Date:         Mon, 25 Nov 1991 18:31:00 GMT
From:         Eric McCormick <0004775674@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Classical Music

>RE: classical emusic
>
>    I've begun to be interested in sequencing classical music using a few
>    synthed sounds mixed in with normal acoustic stuff.  I've heard plenty
>    of all emusic classical music: does anybody know any references to music
>    that blends aoustic classical with synths (recordings, artists, or books)?
>
>Thanks -
>... rick

One group that comes to mind right away is Mannheim Steamroller.  Check out
their "Fresh Aire" collection volumes I through VII.  They also have some
special collections of their own version of Christmas Music.  Check out
Mannheim Steamroller Christmas, and a Fresh Aire Christmas.  Both have some
neat arrangements of Christmas music featuring both acoustic and synthesized
instruments.

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Date:         Mon, 18 Nov 1991 18:10:11 EST
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" 
Subject:      EMUSIC-L Rules

I will post these rules either once a month or when things start to get
out of hand.

Welcome to the list. I'd just like to add a few things to the message
which is sent out to all new users as to rules and regulations for
this list.

1) Ads are strictly not allowed by BITNet rules. No ads. None. Nada.
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If you have problems with any of this, talk to me privately. Now,
let's get back to e-music!

  --- Joe M.

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Date:         Wed, 13 Nov 1991 13:35:33 EST
From:         Patrick Robinson 
Subject:      Nick got published

Hey, Nick...
I saw your letter-to-the-editor in Keyboard.  Good job.
So, do you win a T-shirt, or anything?  :-)

-Patrick

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Date:         Thu, 14 Nov 1991 14:29:40 +0000
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      Re: Nick got published

>Hey, Nick...
>I saw your letter-to-the-editor in Keyboard.  Good job.

Oh. Did I get published? I get KEYBOARD surface-mail, so I'll probably not
see this for weeks. I presume it was the thing about flash photography in
concerts. Hope it brought the point across, anyway (viz. that flash
photography is *not* a harmless pursuit as Milano suggested but actually
very distracting to performers and it's outlawed in venues for very good
reasons).

>So, do you win a T-shirt, or anything?  :-)

Didn't get anything when my last letter (about InnovArt) got printed...

        Nick.

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Date:         Fri, 15 Nov 1991 08:55:25 EST
From:         Patrick Robinson 
Subject:      Re: Nick got published

>>Hey, Nick...
>>I saw your letter-to-the-editor in Keyboard.  Good job.
>
>Oh. Did I get published? I get KEYBOARD surface-mail, so I'll probably not
>see this for weeks. I presume it was the thing about flash photography in
>concerts. Hope it brought the point across, anyway (viz. that flash
>photography is *not* a harmless pursuit as Milano suggested but actually
>very distracting to performers and it's outlawed in venues for very good
>reasons).

Yeah, it was the flash photography thing, and *did* get the point
across.

>>So, do you win a T-shirt, or anything?  :-)
>
>Didn't get anything when my last letter (about InnovArt) got printed...

Ah, well... I didn't really expect that you would.

-Patrick

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Date:         Thu, 21 Nov 1991 10:01:14 TZONE
From:         Bryan Basham 
Subject:      Some humor (was: Creating, then composing.)

Hello EMUSIC-L netters,

I thought I would play USO host during our last cease-fire on the
computer war to bring a quick little joke.  The following statements
reminded me of an old hackers definition.

   > but if I have to spend all my time doing something, the twisting the
   > harmony is more interesting than twiddling the oscillators.

Frobnicate, v.: To manipulate or adjust, to tweak.  Derived from
FROBNITZ.  Usually abbreviated to FROB.  Thus one has the saying "to
frob a frob".  See TWEAK and TWIDDLE.  Usage: FROB, TWIDDLE, and TWEAK
sometimes connote points along a continuum.  FROB connotes aimless
manipulation; TWIDDLE connotes gross manipulation, often a coarse
search for a proper setting; TWEAK connotes fine-tuning.  If someone is
turning a knob on an oscilloscope, then if he's carefully adjusting it
he is probably tweaking it; if he is just turning it but looking at the
screen he is probably twiddling it; but if he's just doing it because
turning a knob is fun, he's frobbing it.

   > 							         I have to
   > admit that I do somethings turn a knob and make a sound that just
   > *demands* a composition, ...
Bill here is definitely, frobbing the knob!

;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-) ;-) :-)

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Date:         Fri, 8 Nov 1991 12:19:33 EDT
From:         "Pete H." 
Subject:      WAKEMAN

OK fellow keyboarders,

    Who of you can name the most Rick Wakeman albums?  I need to
complete my collection, but just don't know exactley how many are out
there!

Mail to the list OR to me at Hagemepp@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu

Thanks is advance!

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Date:         Sun, 10 Nov 1991 21:05:50 GMT
From:         "Joseph L. Procopio" 
Subject:      Re: WAKEMAN

In article  HAGEMEPP@DUVM.BITNET (Pete H.)
writes: Who of you can name the most Rick Wakeman albums?  I need to
   complete my collection, but just don't know exactley how many are out
   there!


I'm not sure about all that exist, but I have :
	Journey to the Center of the Earth
	The Six Wives of Henry the Eighth (IMHO the best Wakeman album)
	The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the Knights of the Round Table
	Criminal Record

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Date:         Mon, 11 Nov 1991 13:26:02 EST
From:         JSMOR@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: WAKEMAN

I don't know of a complete list of Wakeman's solo albums, but I do know that
he has recorded well over 20.  Most of them are not distributed in the U.S., and
Rick is aware of this.  I had the chance to speak with him briefly after an
ABWH show two years ago, and he said that he was trying to work out a deal that
would get his records into stores on this side of the Atlantic.  It seems that
he hasn't made much progress as yet.  Sorry that I couldn't be more helpful.

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Date:         Mon, 11 Nov 1991 20:16:13 GMT
From:         Eddie Mikell 
Subject:      Re: WAKEMAN

I also have (had) one of Wakeman's Movie soundtracks -
White Rock - I believe was the title.

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Date:         Tue, 12 Nov 1991 09:48:49 EST
From:         Larry Larraga 
Subject:      Wakeman Discography

>From the Yes Mailing List Digest _Notes from the Edge_:

1)  The Six Wives of Henry VIII                     1973
2)  Journey to the Centre of the Earth              1974
3)  The Myths and Legends of King Arthur and the    1975
         Knights of the Round Table
4)  Lizstomania                                     1975
5)  No Earthly Connection                           1976
6)  White Rock                                      1977
7)  Criminal Record                                 1977
8)  Rhapsodies                                      1979
9)  1984                                            1981
10) The Burning                                     1981
11) Rock -n- Roll Prophet                           1982
12) Cost of living                                  1983
13) G'ole'                                          1983
14) Black Nights in the Court of Ferdinand IV       1984
15) Silent Nights                                   1985
16) Live at Hammersmith                             1985
17) Country Airs                                    1986
18) Crimes of Passion                               1986
19) The Gospels                                     1987
20) The Family Album                                1987
21) Zodiaque                                        1988
22) A Suite of Gods                                 1988
23) Time Machine                                    1988
24) Sea Airs                                        1989
25) Night Airs                                      1990
26) Phantom Power                                   1990
27) Aspirant Sunrise                                1991
28) Aspirant Sunset                                 1991
29) Aspirant Shadows                                1991
30) Suntrilogy                                      1991
31) The Classical Connection                        1991
32) 2000 A.D. Into the Future                       1991
33) African Bach                                    1991
34) Beyond the Planets                              1991
35) Softsword (King John and the Magna Charter)     1991
36) Private Collection                              1991
37) In the Beginning                                1991??

Prolific, eh?
-- Larry

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Date:         Sun, 24 Nov 1991 20:34:58 CST
From:         Charles Boohaker 
Subject:      Software and Hardware Problems...

Hello, all...

I am new to the MIDI world, and as a newcomer, I am having problems with
my sequencing and editting software, and possibly the hardware along with
it.

Here is my problem...

I have an IBM PS/2 computer with a Roland MPU-IMC card.  The MIDI box that
comes with the package has 2 MIDI out ports and 1 MIDI in port.  I also have
Voyetra's Sequencer (GOLD) and Sound Quest's MIDI Quest.

Here are my problems...

First of all, the biggest problem that I would like to solve is the editting
package, Midi Quest.  Every time that I enter the program, everything appears
to work fine.  However, upon leaving the program, my computer goes into fits.
I tried the DOS version, and it sent my hard drive into a spinning infinity.
I called the company in Canada about 5 times, and they sent different copies
of Metashell to me, but still that didn't help (Metashell is the graphics
environment that it runs under, sorta like windows). After about a half a
year, they traded out the DOS version for the Window's version and still it
didn't work.  This time, I could exit the program, but then I couldn't reenter
any other program without the screen blanking and the keys blinking.  Most of
the time I couldn't even warm boot the computer; I would have to flip the
on-off switch to get control of my computer back.  I tried all different kinds
of autoexec files and congif.sys setups, but nothing seemed to correct the
problem.
That's problem number one.  The second problem is with either the Midi Card
or the Sequencing software... (Hopefully, it's just me).  I can access the
second out port on the MPU-IMC box with the Voyetra sequencer.  I am at a
loss here too.

Can anyone help me fix my situation?  I have had this stuff for almost a
year now, and I can't get any of these problems corrected.  Hopefully, it's
just something simple that I have overlooked, because I really like this
software.  What might the solution be (outside of getting a new computer or a
new port)?  Does anyone know???


                                                  Appreciatively,
                                                         Chuck

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Date:         Mon, 25 Nov 1991 09:49:03 CST
From:         Charles Boohaker 
Subject:      Re: Software and Hardware Problems...

On Mon, 25 Nov 1991 08:09:29 est Rick Duffy said:
>RE: Midi quest
>
>    I'm not sure what your're problem is: I ran Midi Quest for a while
>    under DOS and didn't have any problems.  Have you tried a straight DOS
>    version under a straight DOS OS?  Also, I've seen similar weird things
>    happen under does when working with extended and expanded memory.  I don't
>    know much about the PS/2 (does it run OS/2?), but I've seen some problems
>    fixed by experimenting with the DOS memory driver config directives.  You
> might
>    try (if your running ext or exp memory) unconfiguring your system for the
> extra
>    mem just to see what happens.


Thanks for the reply...

  Yes...  I tried running the DOS version under the DOS system, no Windows
or Expanded/Extended memory invoked, and still there are problems.  I just
wonder if it is having a compatibilty problem with the IMC card that I am
using.  (Supposedly, most of the PS/2 's were made to run OS/2, but DOS is
cheaper to run).

I tried all kinds of configurations, including none, and still it does not
work.  I am just at a loss...

                                          Thanks,

                                                Chuck

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Date:         Mon, 25 Nov 1991 08:09:29 est
From:         Rick Duffy 
Subject:      Re: Software and Hardware Problems...

RE: Midi quest

    I'm not sure what your're problem is: I ran Midi Quest for a while
    under DOS and didn't have any problems.  Have you tried a straight DOS
    version under a straight DOS OS?  Also, I've seen similar weird things
    happen under does when working with extended and expanded memory.  I don't
    know much about the PS/2 (does it run OS/2?), but I've seen some problems
    fixed by experimenting with the DOS memory driver config directives.  You
 might
    try (if your running ext or exp memory) unconfiguring your system for the
 extra
    mem just to see what happens.


RE: ...

    I'm exploring ways to do things with my emusic setup, so I think it'd be
    great to hear any suggestions (imaginative, basic, novel, psychotic, etc)
    on ways to do things.  For example, I've tried playing things with the
    keyboard mapped backwards, and it still sounds pretty good!  Also, I've
    loaded patches on one sound thing, an triggered them from the rythm machine
    on another sound thing - the pathces on sound thing 1 were "female voices",
    and with the tempo slow, It sounded so neat I wrote a requiem for a friend
    who just turned 40 (I lose a lot of friends this way).  I'm sure there are
    a few hundred manmillenias of ideas out there.

RE: classical emusic

    I've begun to be interested in sequencing classical music using a few
    synthed sounds mixed in with normal acoustic stuff.  I've heard plenty
    of all emusic classical music: does anybody know any references to music
    that blends aoustic classical with synths (recordings, artists, or books)?

Thanks -
... rick

rick@maxai.den.mmc.com

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