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EMUSIC-L Digest                                      Volume 51, Issue 01

This issue's topics:
	
	retrofit board automation
	Roland D70 Question
	ROLAND IMPLEMENTATION HELP NEEDED.....
	Studio Monitors (2 messages)
	Sysex for sr-16
	The Vox Guitorgan
	The WAVE demos at Frankfurt Musik Messe
	The WAVE flyer 93 (txt)
	WaveStation SR !!! (3 messages)
	Xpander and Prophet-VS Mailing Lists
	Yamaha RY30

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 05:46:42 LCL
From:         doug.ramsay@HIS.COM
Subject:      ALESIS MICROVERB III

Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought of
using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't know
if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.

Thanks...Doug

doug.ramsay@p983.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org  -and-  doug.ramsay@his.com

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 16:05:24 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: ALESIS MICROVERB III

On Fri, 16 Apr 1993 05:46:42 LCL  said:
>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought of
>using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't know
>if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks...Doug
>
>doug.ramsay@p983.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org  -and-  doug.ramsay@his.com

I had the same problem with my Microverb III. If you want to use it in
between other rack's you better do some sort of additional cabling
with switch. You can plug the jack from AC/DC adaptor into switch
and from the switch into Alesis. (Be careful not to turn polarity)

  If you're more advanced in tech you may install a switch in the
effect. That's what I did with my. I located it at the back of Micro.
and had little problems with drilling (the metal is covered with something
that sticks out).
  You can locate the switch in front (useful in rack mountings) but you
have to be careful not to damage the panel too much. The other thing
is to locate the switch, so it won't collide with internal elements of
Microverb.
  The last task is internal connection of cables. The original inlet
is located directly on electronic surface, the way I did my switch
is that I cutted two connections with inlet. The point before the cut
and two points after the cut (the track splits in two directions),
I've connected to switch.
   Anyway it wasn't easy to do, so if you don't feel up to do it
do an external switch. It won't look too good but you don't risk
any damage to the cover.
   I use my switch very long, and I'm proud of my switch... !!!
The only thing I don't like is that when I turn my Microverb on and
off it makes a short shoot sound (it's not the fault of switch, the
same thing happens when you plug the adaptor too).

I hope this helps you.

Jack L.




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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 10:36:50 PDT
From:         metlay 
Subject:      Re: ALESIS MICROVERB III

>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought of
>using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't know
>if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.

Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and
I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box
intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way.

--
mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com
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I'll survive. Indeed I will. But boy will I ever be confused.  (s. kellogg)

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Date:         Thu, 1 Apr 1993 18:53:25 GMT
From:         Sang Jin Hong 
Subject:      Re: Direct to Disk Recording on Mac and PC

IBM currently doesn't have any decent softwares which support them,
although MediaVision and Creative Lab do have decent hard wares...
besides, Roland just announced TAP-10 on-board card for PC, which does
44KHz digital recording to HDD with 2 inputs, also it has a simplified
version of sound canvas, (the compact version for computers), it's
listed at $595, so it'll be around $500 or little less...  Roland will
include a direct recording/sequencing software with it, but I think the
better option would wait for some softwares from other venders, like
CuBase Audio for PC, etc, which support these cards...

Also Digidesign announced this 8 track direct hdd recorder for PC, which
has full software (looked pretty sophisticated), I believe it even has
pretty decent mixer with aux effect returns and eq's...  It also has a
option for getting console with sliders...  Now, that looked mighty
nice, it costs about $3000...  which isn't bad at all for 8 track direct
HDD with all those nice features...

Also Antex Electronic has announced yet another dac card with Dolby
A-2...  2 inputs...  no price given...

I've been using IBM for long time and never tried Mac intensively, I so
some direct recording products for Mac which looked nice, like CuBase
Audio, Digital Performer with Yamaha's CBX D5...  but I think IBM has
better price...  and seems like a lot of people are jumping into it
recently...  like new creative lab's soundblaster 16 ASP (which used be
game-card) looked very nice for doing digital recording... so if
software venders take advantage of them, I think IBM would be better
choice...


.sjh

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 12:06:23 -0400
From:         Ed Riley 
Subject:      DS-330 experience

Can anyone out there give me some direction on the purchase of a DS-330?
Can this box be used like a Sound Canvas (what I really want)?
Are the drum sounds on the DS-330 good?
Any experiences (good or bad) would be helpful.

Tks....

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1993 20:09:30 EDT
From:         "Richard B. Humphries" 
Subject:      Emax serial port

Does anyone know about the serialport on the EMAX? i.e what baud rate, etc. Al
so what the files look like.

Better yet, does anyoine know EMAX's addressso I can write them for a manual?

Please respond to me personally at RH0536a@AUVM.American.edu

thanks.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 10:59:04 EDT
From:         wbf@ALUXPO.ATT.COM
Subject:      Ensoniq Mirage

On March 24, Tim Griffin asked:
> Does anyone know where I can reach Bill Fleischer, author
> of the original Mirage Disk Editor?

Have you found him yet, Tim?  Is there anybody out there successfully
sampling on their Mirage or have ANY software (on the PC) helping out in
this regard?

Foxy

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 18:15:51 -0400
From:         Timothy Griffin 
Subject:      Re: Ensoniq Mirage

Dear "Foxy" -

Nope! I haven't found Bill Fleisher (author of the original Mirage
Disk Editor program for the PC) yet! I wrote to the address that was
included with the README file for MDE, but my letter came back
Addressee Unknown. Too bad. The program had great potential, and
I'd like to revive it (for those of use that can't afford SoundVision etc.)

Somebody must know where I can reach this guy, yeah?

Tim

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Date:         Sun, 11 Apr 1993 12:26:00 GMT
From:         Richard Morey 
Subject:      ENSONIQ SQ-1

I have an Ensoniq SQ-1 and I have been working on a patch editor /
librarian program in Turbo Pascal but I am having trouble sending info
through my MPU compatible MIDI card.. Anyone out there program in Pascal
and now how to access MIDI through it?

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1993 16:43:50 -0400
From:         Sang Jin Hong 
Subject:      Korg 01/Wfd

does anyone have a Korg's 01/Wfd?  I currerntly have 01/W, and I'd like
to get copies of the demo sequences built in...  so if you could send me
a copy of them, please reply to my account...  thanks...


.sjh

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Date:         Wed, 28 Apr 1993 07:33:26 +0000
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      MIDI Mixers (Re: pitch bend)

This is really SYNTH-L talk, but anyway...

>    The mixers I have are CM Automation's MX-816 ($779.95 US retail) which
>is a 16 channel MIDI controlled mixer (single 19" rack space).

Hmm, same price as the Fostex's (which is what I have, and which is why I
was asking).

>It sums 2
>groups of 8 channels to 2 individual outputs and each of the 16 channels
>also have its own output so that this box can be used as an automated
>(faders) front end to your own 16 channel mixer.

Hmm, OK, so it's not a complete mixer (no EQ or pan, etc.); it just
implements channel faders and two effects sends.

>A neat feature
>is that a 17th controler message (in addition to 16 controlling channel
>attenuation) can be used to fade between 2 stored snapshot scenes.

That's sweet; the Fostexen support instant setup select only (although I
intend to use MAX to get round this).

>  The audio quality is pristine. Better than 95 dB SNR, over 116 dB dynamic
>range, +/- 1 dB freq response from 5 Hz to 80 kHz.  Less than .01% THD
>(unweighted).

Bleah. The Fostexen are somewhat hissy (78dB SNR): fine for live use but
probably marginal for recording unless you go to a fair amount of effort to
get the gains tuned and so on. So far I've been doing live work only, and
still have the Studiomaster sitting in the corner, just in case. (Mind you,
the Studiomaster is quoted at about the same SNR...) In the Fostexen the
noise seems to be per channel, so they can be muted if required. I've also
had problems with hum and line noise (since I have two pretty packed racks
with umbilicals between them) but I think that's solvable.

>        Other niceties include a ground lift switch,

(Fostexen aren't grounded... !)

> There is also an ugly little control console available for it

The Fostex control panel is a little plasticky but is very good and easy to
use; a major plus.

>DISADVANTAGES: No MIDI Through except for MIDI Note Events, Start, Stop,
>Continue, CLock, Patch Change, Continuous Controller, and MX-816 Sys
>Exclusive messages (no other sys. exclusive messages).

Pah, use a MIDI patchbay. I never trust MIDI THRU on American instruments.

                        Nick Rothwell   |   cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Date:         Mon, 5 Apr 1993 13:35:58 EST
From:         Douglas Ramsay 
Subject:      MIDI Patch Bays

Hi...

I'll be looking soon to purchase a MIDI patchbay (rackmount) and would like to
know how the KMX 8X8 programmable patch bay compares to others in its class. I
spoke to metlay about the Yamaha MJC-8 and his KMX 15X16 bay (thanx, Mike!). How
important is it to have built in merge...I guess it depends on what you'd like
to accomplish. Anyway, I'm looking at something like the KMX 8X8, MJC-8, or
Digital Music MX-8, just need something to the take care of the impending next
of cables I see coming. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TIA

================================
Doug Ramsay, PEO-SCS
Communication Satellite Programs
Washington, DC
ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil
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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1993 09:26:25 ADT
From:         Alan Edwards 
Subject:      Re: MIDI Patch Bays

In message <9304051824.AA13226@unb.ca> Douglas Ramsay writes:
> Hi...
>
> I'll be looking soon to purchase a MIDI patchbay (rackmount) and would like to
> know how the KMX 8X8 programmable patch bay compares to others in its class. I
> spoke to metlay about the Yamaha MJC-8 and his KMX 15X16 bay (thanx, Mike!).

This is more of a SYNTH-L topic I think, but for what it is worth, I suggest
that you avoid the MJC-8. It has a big drawback in that it cannot accept
patch change messages. You may think that is not important now, but trust me,
down the road it will make your life easier. I would look at the Roland A-880.
I got one of these last summer, and have been very pleased with it. My MJC-8
has been consigned to switching the sub-nets in my system, which do not need
changing very often, and it is useful as an activity indicator there...

Alan


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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1993 13:45:02 ECT
From:         Anthony Tersmette 
Subject:      Re: Peavey MIDIBase

I recall tinkering w/ something that fits that general descrition some 15 years
 ago or so. Believe it was referred to as a "Guitorgan", or somesuch. An oddity
 indeed!

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Date:         Fri, 23 Apr 1993 13:13:59 -0500
From:         Biff Padiduwitz 
Subject:      Peavey MIDIBase

regarding:
" If this instrument had existed in 1983, I might
still be a half-decent bassist rather than a poor keyboardist in
addition to my synth-programming chops..."

There was an instrument that existed in 1969 that was a fret wired
guitar that could replace an organ keyboard. Each fret was split in
sixths and string contact closed the switch. It had a huge mass of
cabled wires coming out of it (one for each switch). The only problem
with it was that it had no logic circuit to eliminate switches closed
behind the played note so, for example, barre chords would sound all
of the notes of the bar. Does anybody else remember this oddity?
Who made it? Whatever happened to it?

Bill Scott

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:11:35 EDT
From:         Alex Gottschalk 
Subject:      Re: Peavey MIDIBase

>Posted on 23 Apr 1993 at 13:29:40 by Biff Padiduwitz
>
>There was an instrument that existed in 1969 that was a fret wired
>guitar that could replace an organ keyboard. Each fret was split in
>sixths and string contact closed the switch. It had a huge mass of
>cabled wires coming out of it (one for each switch). The only problem
>with it was that it had no logic circuit to eliminate switches closed
>behind the played note so, for example, barre chords would sound all
>of the notes of the bar. Does anybody else remember this oddity?
>Who made it? Whatever happened to it?
>
>Bill Scott

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Date:         Mon, 26 Apr 1993 21:12:42 EDT
From:         Alex Gottschalk 
Subject:      Re: Peavey MIDIBase

>Posted on 23 Apr 1993 at 13:29:40 by Biff Padiduwitz
>
>There was an instrument that existed in 1969 that was a fret wired
>guitar that could replace an organ keyboard. Each fret was split in
>sixths and string contact closed the switch. It had a huge mass of
>cabled wires coming out of it (one for each switch). The only problem
>with it was that it had no logic circuit to eliminate switches closed
>behind the played note so, for example, barre chords would sound all
>of the notes of the bar. Does anybody else remember this oddity?
>Who made it? Whatever happened to it?
>
>Bill Scott

This instrument was made by Vox, now defunct. They produced some pretty weird
guitars besides the guitorgan, like tear-drop shaped monstrosities whose string
spacings were narrower at the bridge than the nut. They had some wild on-board
electronics though, like built in vibrato and fuzz and whatnot.

Alex Gottschalk

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Date:         Tue, 27 Apr 1993 09:27:30 -0500
From:         Biff Padiduwitz 
Subject:      Re: Peavey MIDIBase

Alex Gottschalk writes:
>This instrument was made by Vox, now defunct.

Was the guitorgan made by the same folks who made the VOX continental
featured so prominently on the Lawrence Welk show?

Bill Scott

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1993 15:17:52 EDT
From:         ronin 
Subject:      pitch bend

just a little clarification...
the midi pitch bend command is a status word independent of the rest of
midi's controllers (like mod wheel, volume, etc) and is followed by a
two-byte numerical argument, providing a numeric range of 16384, as
opposed to the standard range of 128 for the other controllers. this
precision provides a great deal of flexibility in response implementation,
with most synthesizers allowing the +/- 8192 range to be assigned to anything
from +/- one semitone to +/- one octave. glissando is usually a separate
option, by the way.

-----------< Cognitive Dissonance is a 20th Century Art Form >-----------
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 or 
The American University Physics Dept.
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:01:51 CDT
From:         crispen 
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: ALESIS MICROVERB III

Douglas Ramsay  sez (in response
to Mike Metlay):

>>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
>>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought
>>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't
>>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.
>
>MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and
>MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box
>MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way.
>
>Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc
>pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do
>some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to
>leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I
>think)

Horror story from Decatur AL: I inadvertently left my Midiverb II
on for a week and when I came back to play it, it was fried --
every sound, even at the lowest volumes, was clipped.  I sent it
back to Alesis, and unlike their reputation for kindness to
customers, they gave me a severe hassle before they finally
fixed it (about $50 if I remember correctly, since it was out of
warranty).

Since my Midiverb sits on a table, I just leave the thin power cord
from the wall wart lying beside it, so I can plug it in when I need it.
I do leave it plumbed to my mixer, though (but I keep the volumes on
the send and return all the way down).
+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
| Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen        |            "IT FOUND ME!"            |
| crispen@foxy.boeing.com       |      Campus Crusade for Cthulhu      |
+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:45:05 EST
From:         Douglas Ramsay 
Subject:      Re[2]: ALESIS MICROVERB III

>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought
>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't
>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.

MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and
MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box
MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way.

Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc
pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do
some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to
leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I
think)

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 11:59:56 PDT
From:         metlay 
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: ALESIS MICROVERB III

>>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
>>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought
>>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't
>>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.
>
>MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and
>MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box
>MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way.
>
>Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc
>pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do
>some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to
>leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I
>think)

Well, this would normally surprise me, but after Bob's horror story maybe
I shouldn't be so glib. I've had a MIDIverb for many years (yes the original
one) and never had trouble with long turn-on periods....


--
mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
The Rhodes Chroma: The only synthesizer whose front panel buttons hit back.

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1993 08:32:24 EST
From:         Douglas Ramsay 
Subject:      Re[2]: Studio Monitors

>I've mentioned before on emusic-l the Atlantic Technology Pattern 100
>self-powered speakers. I think they'd do fine, if you can find them. They
>sold for about $500, but have been discontinued, and discounters have them
>for about $280. Good luck.

>Jon

Thanks for the speedy response, Jon, I'm collecting as much data as possible to
facilitate shopping around. If you even have the faintest idea of what
mail-order houses may carry them, pls let me know.

================================
Doug Ramsay, PEO-SCS
Communication Satellite Programs
Washington, DC
ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil
doug.ramsay@his.com
================================

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 14:33:55 EST
From:         Douglas Ramsay 
Subject:      Re[4]: ALESIS MICROVERB III

Douglas Ramsay  sez (in response
to Mike Metlay):

>>>Ok folks, I don't know why Alesis *didn't* design this, but I'd like to
>>>configure some sort of power (on/off) switch for my Microverb III. I thought
>>>of using an in-line thumbwheel switch (as I did for a lamp, once) but I don't
>>>know if that's the best way. Any ideas? All help would be appreciated.
>
>MM>Why, may I ask? I hit mine from the main power switch for my studio, and
>MM>I assume that any manufacturer who leaves a power switch off of their box
>MM>intends it never to be turned off and designs it that way.
>
>Ok, Mike...my setup is in the corner of my apt...I have lamps, stereo, etc
>pligged into the same power strip as the MIDI equipment. When I'm ready to do
>some work, I turn on each unit individually. Someone told me it wasn't wise to
>leave the Microverb on *all* of the time (something to do with the LEDs, I
>think)

>Horror story from Decatur AL: I inadvertently left my Midiverb II
>on for a week and when I came back to play it, it was fried --
>every sound, even at the lowest volumes, was clipped.  I sent it
>back to Alesis, and unlike their reputation for kindness to
>customers, they gave me a severe hassle before they finally
>fixed it (about $50 if I remember correctly, since it was out of
>warranty).

>Since my Midiverb sits on a table, I just leave the thin power cord
>from the wall wart lying beside it, so I can plug it in when I need it.
>I do leave it plumbed to my mixer, though (but I keep the volumes on
>the send and return all the way down).
>+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
>| Rev. Bob "Bob" Crispen        |            "IT FOUND ME!"            |
>| crispen@foxy.boeing.com       |      Campus Crusade for Cthulhu      |
>+-------------------------------+--------------------------------------+

Ok, guys...just got off the phone with Alesis Customer Service, (800) 5-ALESIS
(don't know why I didn't do this from the start). The tech rep says "it's okay
to leave the unit on for an extended period of time".   "On the order of....?"
said I. He says "days...shouldn't cause any problem to the internal circuitry,
but don't leave it on for more than a week or so."

Cheers!

Doug

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1993 13:59:43 +0000
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      Re: Re[4]: ALESIS MICROVERB III

>The tech rep says "it's okay
>to leave the unit on for an extended period of time".   "On the order of....?"
>said I. He says "days...shouldn't cause any problem to the internal circuitry,
>but don't leave it on for more than a week or so."

...which still begs the question: why? What happens in a week that doesn't
happen in a day?

                        Nick Rothwell   |   cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1993 09:52:21 EST
From:         Douglas Ramsay 
Subject:      Re[6]: ALESIS MICROVERB III

>The tech rep says "it's okay
>to leave the unit on for an extended period of time".   "On the order of....?"
>said I. He says "days...shouldn't cause any problem to the internal circuitry,
NM>....which still begs the question: why? What happens in a week that doesn't
NM>happen in a day?

NM>                        Nick Rothwell   |   cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
NM>     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

I don't know, Nick., all I wanted was a simple switch so I culd leave the
wallwart in the power strip, leave the strip on, but leave the "Verb off when
not needed. I guess you've probably seen the response from Jack Lantanowicz by
now.

Cheers!

================================
Doug Ramsay, PEO-SCS
Communication Satellite Programs
Washington, DC
ramsayd@smtp-gw.spawar.navy.mil
doug.ramsay@his.com
================================

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