issue04

EMUSIC-L Digest                                      Volume 51, Issue 04

This issue's topics:
	
	Asking the right question?
	D-50, MEX (Korg M1 data bank)
	D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank) (15 messages)
	Korg M1 data bank (5 messages)

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 10:14:21 PDT
From:         Tracy Collins 
Subject:      Re: Asking the right question?

I know that the Mackie 1604 has a midi automation kit.
I have the 1604 and plan on getting the midi automation
kit at some time in the future.

You may also want to check out some of the larger Tascam
boards.

tracy

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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 13:13:22 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Korg M1 data bank)

  I made a mistake and ereased mail from last 3 days. There was someone
from Spain (I suppose), who wrote some new info about PC cards and
sent His personal address. Please if someone still has this letter
(from about yesterday), respond to me. I have some new questions !

Jack L.




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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1993 09:09:51 PDT
From:         metlay 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

>
>Yes. It predates the multitimbral era by about a year (the first
>multitimbral synth, the ESQ-1, was around, but that's all).

I beg your pardon? In whose arcane numbering system and timewarped
sense of history is the ESQ-1 the first multitimbral synth? It was
so late in coming that the mutitimbralit barely garnered a mention.
What it WAS first at, at least in an affordable platform, was
multitimbral with dynamic voice allocation.

--
mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com
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I've been seduced by the Dark Side of the MIDI spec.

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1993 16:50:27 +0000
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

>  By the way I had very little contact with D-50 (D-550), from what I know
>it's not a multi timbral synth, is it true ?

Yes. It predates the multitimbral era by about a year (the first
multitimbral synth, the ESQ-1, was around, but that's all). The D-50 is
bitimbral, but won't take program changes for the two tones, which is a
real shame. (Curiously, the earlier MKS-70 gets this right.)

There's talk on rec.music.makers.synth on the MEX upgrade for the D-50. It
makes the D-50 attempt to be multitimbral. I say "attempt": a MEX D-50 will
work on several channels, but large parts of the voice architecture (EQ,
chorus, LFO allocation, and some other stuff) are global to the
multi-setup, so it's a compromise.

The MEX costs something like $400, which is overpriced for what it
provides. I think I have a handle on some for around $150, which makes it
just about worth it for me (given that I have MAX so I can build a control
interface to get the flexibility I want). One person on r.m.m.synth has had
reliability problems, so I'm asking round about this before I put down any
cash. Oh yeah, installation can be tricky, especially if you have (i) a
D-550 or (ii) a machine with surface-mounted OS ROM. Guess who has both...

                        Nick Rothwell   |   cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1993 18:07:49 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

 Hey Nick, from what I feel You're a professionalist. It seems you know
a lot of things about studios, synths, etc.I would like You to give me an
advice.
  My first contact with synths and stuff was 3 years ago. I bought a
ROLAND D10 + ROLAND TR 626 drum machine (I won't start my story with all
funny Casios and Yamahas that I've had). I didn't have a seqencer so
I sold these, and bought KORG M1. It looked like a good instrument but
the usage of seq. was so difficult, it made me buy a computer - AMIGA 500.
  The system works on, but still it doesn't satisfy me. The M1 has sounds
which aren't equivalent to the music I would like to do. I was looking
for something that would have sounds synthesized, more unreal that You
could make a dreamers music out of them. The computer isn't so good
either, it works very well as a seq. but still the sampler that I have
in it and Amiga's sound quality are not so good.
  I think right now I found all perfect things for my small studio.
I'm planning to change Korg M1 to Korg WAVESTATION and Amiga 500 to
an PC+Soundblaster PRO. But still I have many questions and unsolved
problems.
  1.Is it possible with PCM cards to change the style of instrument,
or even with new cards (which I haven't got) the M1 will still sound
like M1.
  2.Is point #1 worth doing ?
  3.Is KORG Wavestation an old instrument, maybe there is something
newer better ?

  Once I was in love with ROLAND company but I haven't found a synth
that will be good for me. You won't believe that I wanted to buy D-50
but what scared me most was that differently to the D-family there
was NO MULTI TIMBRAL. I don't have so much money to buy any kind of
synth, if so probably I would turn to WAVESTATION AD rack module
and big part of my problems would sunk.
  If anyone could suggest something to help me make up my mind, that
wouldn't take a big amount of money, I would be very pleased and
thankful.




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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1993 16:31:06 -0400
From:         Joe McMahon 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

> Hey Nick, from what I feel You're a professionalist. It seems you know
>a lot of things about studios, synths, etc.I would like You to give me an
>advice.
(Hope Nick and Jack don't mind me jumping in, but I can never keep
my mouth shut either...)

>The system works on, but still it doesn't satisfy me. The M1 has sounds
>which aren't equivalent to the music I would like to do. I was looking
>for something that would have sounds synthesized, more unreal that You
>could make a dreamers music out of them.
A man with a specific vision. Good! This will make it lots easier for you
to evaluate your options. If it fits with your vision, then it's good. If
not, not.

> I think right now I found all perfect things for my small studio.
> I'm planning to change Korg M1 to Korg WAVESTATION and Amiga 500 to
> an PC+Soundblaster PRO. But still I have many questions and unsolved
> problems.
If you can afford to hang on to the M1, it is indeed capable of making
seriously weird noises. Dan Yuen, a reader of this list in Philadelphia,
PA, has made some very strange noises indeed with the M1. Refresh my
memory, kids: does the M! have the capability of massive transposes of
the waves? Some really nice effects can be gotten by shifting sounds
down 3 or 4 octaves, or up (this gives fairly unpredictable aliasing
effects; couple with pichbend and wow!).

I'm not sure whether the SB PRO will work well for you or not. How is
the sound quality? Is it 8-bit/12-bit/16-bit sampling? I believe that
there may POSSIBLY (I'm not an expert, just asking...) be incompatbilities
with some sequencers. The PC experts on SYNTH-L can help more.

>  1.Is it possible with PCM cards to change the style of instrument,
>or even with new cards (which I haven't got) the M1 will still sound
>like M1.
New PCM cards will give you new waves to fool with; unless there are
some seriously warped waves on these cards, you're still probably looking
at "instrumental" timbres, rather than synthetic ones.

>  2.Is point #1 worth doing ?
It depends on the card. You may want to try some experimentation with the
existing waveforms to see what you can get out of them before making the
leap. Heavy filtering, large transpositions, unusual envelopes,
rapid/varying LFO's all may make the M1 more valuable to you.

>  3.Is KORG Wavestation an old instrument, maybe there is something
>newer better ?
If it trips your trigger, it doesn't matter how old it is. From your
description of your ideal music, I'd say the Wavestation may very well
be exactly right. Nobody ever sold their Stradavarius because it wasn't
made this last year.

> I don't have so much money to buy any kind of
> synth, if so probably I would turn to WAVESTATION AD rack module
> and big part of my problems would sunk.
If you go with the A/D, you have just extended your range of available
timbres immensely. Process you favorite television program. Tune a
shortwave radio a random and record that (I hope John Cage is smiling,
somewhere....).

>  If anyone could suggest something to help me make up my mind, that
>wouldn't take a big amount of money, I would be very pleased and
>thankful.
I'm not sure how expensive the WS A/D will be. Try pushing the M1 past its
sane limits first and see if there are any sounds out there on the fringes
which work for you. Not changing anything before pushing the envelope is
always good.

 --- Joe M.

"But hey -- I'm just a piece of KELP..." (C. Shriner)

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Date:         Fri, 9 Apr 1993 16:04:57 -0500
From:         Biff Padiduwitz 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

regarding the ESQ-1 and the following comment:
"What it WAS first at, at least in an affordable platform, was
multitimbral with dynamic voice allocation."

Not even that. The K-5, I believe, came out before the ESQ-1. The
K5 allowed you to choose between dynamic or static allocation.
This should be on Synth-L.

Bill SCott

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1993 15:57:36 +0000
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

>I beg your pardon? In whose arcane numbering system and timewarped
>sense of history is the ESQ-1 the first multitimbral synth? It was
>so late in coming that the mutitimbralit barely garnered a mention.

Oooh, excuse me. Might I possibly perhaps have forgotten to mention some
Oberheim beast with 7-letter name beginning with "X" and ending with "r"?

First I heard of the Xpander was around '89 when I first spoke to you. I've
never seen one here (nor an M12), and never seen one for sale, so to all
intents and purposes the ESQ-1 was the first machine which attempted to be
more than naively bitimbral.

I guess the later PPG's come in here as well, as well as other (at that
time) hyperpriced units.

                        Nick Rothwell   |   cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Date:         Sat, 10 Apr 1993 16:01:30 +0000
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

>(Hope Nick and Jack don't mind me jumping in, but I can never keep
>my mouth shut either...)

I don't mind; I'll let Joe do the work...

>If it trips your trigger, it doesn't matter how old it is. From your
>description of your ideal music, I'd say the Wavestation may very well
>be exactly right. Nobody ever sold their Stradavarius because it wasn't
>made this last year.

The WS is still current because it's totally unique; there's no newer,
better, Wavestation-II, and I doubt there will be to be honest; it's too
much of an innovative instrument and doesn't fall into the middle of the
market.

>If you go with the A/D, you have just extended your range of available
>timbres immensely. Process you favorite television program. Tune a
>shortwave radio a random and record that (I hope John Cage is smiling,
>somewhere....).

Sure, but since the WS A/D isn't a sampler you'll have to be using tape to
do this, unless you (say) feed the M1 into the A/D...

                        Nick Rothwell   |   cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk
     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance   |   cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk

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Date:         Mon, 12 Apr 1993 08:23:41 PDT
From:         metlay 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

>>I beg your pardon? In whose arcane numbering system and timewarped
>>sense of history is the ESQ-1 the first multitimbral synth? It was
>>so late in coming that the mutitimbralit barely garnered a mention.
>
>Oooh, excuse me. Might I possibly perhaps have forgotten to mention some
>Oberheim beast with 7-letter name beginning with "X" and ending with "r"?

No, actually, you forgot the Sequential SixTrak, which was the first.
Vot tak!

--
mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * metlay@netcom.com
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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1993 11:06:20 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

 Hey Joe !
  Thanks for your advice. Sorry I didn't reply so long but easter got me
off the tracks. I think you're right, I will have to expand with PCM's
before I make up my mind to sell M1. The default 100 PCM's I use for
almost 2 years, no wonder they seem boring to me.
  The problem still remains in the computer. The AMIGA500 noise level
and sampler (25 kHz) are terrible. Lights on my mixer blink while there
isn't anything playing. But what I still don't know is what card for PC
is a best option.
  From what I know every card has it's own software. But what I don't
know is, are these programs compatibile ? I'm used to KCS on AMIGA,
I don't even know if there is a version for PC.
  I think Soundblaster is a good option cause it's popular, but I really
don't know other (something like SPECTRUM ???.%&$?) Hmm...
What machines and cards use professional studios ? Can anyone answer that ?
Maybe ATARIs ? (Ha I always treated ATARI as a game machine or a washmachine
(cause it does brainwash))
  I also heard something about memory expansion for M1 and a sampler (3000DM)
but I wasn't able to check it nobody knows anything. Maybe someone knows
something about it !!!
  I still need that piece of kelp...

Jack L.

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1993 09:43:26 -0400
From:         Joe McMahon 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

> Hey Joe !
> I will have to expand with PCM's before I make up my mind to sell M1.
> The default 100 PCM's I use for almost 2 years, no wonder they seem boring
> to me.
Keep experimenting. The people who have heard my stuff on the list will
tell you that it is dreamy, soundtrack-like stuff (sort of Twin Peaks
crossed with Pat Metheny and Karlheinz Stockhausen)(yeah, yeah, I know, but
the album has to wait until the new house gets finished). You may be able
to come
up with some very nice, usable stuff with appropriate patch fiddling, even
without the new PCM cards.

>  The problem still remains in the computer. The AMIGA500 noise level
>and sampler (25 kHz) are terrible. Lights on my mixer blink while there
>isn't anything playing.
I wonder if a noise gate would be helpful for you. If you have a library
of samples you like and are mostly suffering from quiescent noise, that
might be enought to clean it up to a usable point.

> But what I still don't know is what card for PC
>is a best option.

>Maybe ATARIs ?
Yes! There are a number of companies (especially in Europe) that support the
Atari, and there are a number of people who use it (including pros). I believe
that there are a number of Atari users on this list who can tell you more.
Certainly it's worth considering if you are possibly changing platforms anyway.

>  I also heard something about memory expansion for M1 and a sampler (3000DM)
>but I wasn't able to check it nobody knows anything. Maybe someone knows
>something about it !!!
Cannon Research makes an animal called the Frontal Lobe for the M1. I believe
that it allows you (at an ungodly price) to load your own samples as PCM
waves, and it expands the sequencer capability as well, plus giving you a
disk to back up your patches and sequences. It doesn't quite turn the M1
into a sampler; you still have to get the samples from somewhere else.
Frankly, you'd be better off buying a Real Sampler. If you really, really
like the M1 as a master keyboard, though, it's certainly an option.

>  I still need that piece of kelp...

Kelp is an integral part of a healthy ecosystem. :-)

 --- Joe M.

"Have you put in the isolation booths or run the audio trunklines yet?" (m.
metlay)

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Date:         Tue, 13 Apr 1993 17:18:44 UTC+0100
From:         gui 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

==================

JACK L. said:
-
-  The problem still remains in the computer. The AMIGA500 noise level
-and sampler (25 kHz) are terrible. Lights on my mixer blink while there
-isn't anything playing. But what I still don't know is what card for PC
-is a best option.

        I think the best card is the one that fits your requirements :)
There are bad, good and excellent sound cards for PC (though there is still
a lot of people that thinks PC is a boring machine, just a computer and not the
best choice for a musician)

-  I think Soundblaster is a good option cause it's popular, but I really
-don't know other (something like SPECTRUM ???.%&$?) Hmm...

        I agree, Soundblaster is very popular.... I have tried the first 8-bit
version and its sound was not very good; but it was great with games. There is a
new SoundBlaster-Pro 16-bit, I haven't tried it yet, but PC magazines tell
wonderful things about it. Creative Labs Inc. seem to have fixed some problems
like a little bit of noise in sampling mode, and maybe they have improved sound
capabilities. Of course, it is not a Proteus, it's only one of the 'cheap'
options. If I were you, I'd first think about what I need. Do you really want
sound in your PC or you only want a MIDI interface?

-  From what I know every card has it's own software. But what I don't
-know is, are these programs compatibile ? I'm used to KCS on AMIGA,
-I don't even know if there is a version for PC.

        Oh..... Compatibilities are a little bit strange on PC's... but if
you buy a standard MIDI interface (MPU, Voyetra,.... I don't really know if
SoundBlaster is fully compatible), you will find good sequencers as KCS,
Cubase, Cakewalk-Pro and many other...

-What machines and cards use professional studios ? Can anyone answer that ?
-Maybe ATARIs ? (Ha I always treated ATARI as a game machine or a washmachine
-(cause it does brainwash))

        Atari???? I like them, but their economic policy seems to be a little
fool (and their new Falcon-030 is just a new thing and maybe it has trouble with
the ST sequencers) If you get an ATARI-ST series, think you are getting an OLD
computer. Of course, many studios use them, but they are old 'good working
machines', they are desperately slow!

-  I still need that piece of kelp...
-
-Jack L.
-

        Hope this helps!

        Luis A. Fuente
        gui@cpd.uva.es ---- amiga@hp9000.uva.es

        Departament of Analytical Chemistry
        University of Valladolid
        Spain


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Date:         Wed, 14 Apr 1993 13:21:50 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

Louis A. Fuente said:

>        I think the best card is the one that fits your requirements :)
>  If I were you, I'd first think about what I need. Do you really want
 >sound in your PC or you only want a MIDI interface?

I have described the music I want to do earlier, and I don't know if any
card will satisfy me. I count on the generation of waves, that I think
Soundblaster Pro is capabile of doing. Samplers are rather (not only)
for techno, I want to do music like Pieter Nooten (vocalist of XYMOX)
on his "Sleeps with the fishes" album.(if you don't know him maybe you
heard something close to Cocktau Twins)

>        Oh..... Compatibilities are a little bit strange on PC's... but if
>you buy a standard MIDI interface (MPU, Voyetra,.... I don't really know if
>SoundBlaster is fully compatible), you will find good sequencers as KCS,
>Cubase, Cakewalk-Pro and many other...

   What I need is a card with MIDI for PC. But if it is possible it also
may contain sound generating system or sampler. The best option for me
is Sb Pro but I still don't know about compatibility of progs.
What I don't know either is, is it possible to run music thru MIDI and
from PC at the same time ? (like in KCS on AMIGA)
  If so, are sounds from PC assigned to MIDI channels, or do they have
separate channels ?

   I've heard also something about hard disk recording system for PC
if anyone knows what it is about please give some more details.

Jack L.


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61-306 Poznan
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Date:         Thu, 15 Apr 1993 09:49:19 WETDST
From:         Jose Manuel Gonzalez 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

>
>  Hey Joe !
>.....
>   I think Soundblaster is a good option cause it's popular, but I really
> don't know other (something like SPECTRUM ???.%&$?) Hmm...
>
> Jack L.
>

I can't help you very much about the MIDI capabilities of the PC Souncards.
I know each one has his own flaws, so if you want to use it with a commercial
sequencer, you have to check the compatibility before. I have heard that
GUS Midi implementation is temporally unidirectional, but I can't assure it.

About the way it sounds, you have to differenciate two ways of producing
sounds.

        - FM synthesis: It's used in the AdLib, Soundblaster/Soundblaster Pro,
          Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS), etc. You can only produce a limited number
          of sounds that the FM chip can generate, and you cannot modify any
          parameters of then (frecuency yes, of course :-). The sound quality
          is not very good, as the sounds are internally generated in the chip.
          The soudblaster usually have a high level of background noise.

        - Waveform table: It's used in the Roland cards (LAPC, SCS,...),
          Turtle Beach Multisound, GUS (Gravis Ultrasound), etc.
          They have a sample ROM in it and they play it the same way
          a keyboard does. Each one have different
          capabilities: the GUS can store new sounds, downloading the waveforms from disk, others have more ROM memory, ... In general, the sound is
          much better then FM cards.


If you want more info, please feel free to e-mail me.


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Jose Manuel Gonzalez                         | TTT I DD
                                             |  T  I D D
jmg@tid.es                                   |  T  I DD    Telefonica I+D, Spain
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Date:         Fri, 16 Apr 1993 15:19:00 LCL
From:         Achim Haag 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

Jose Gonzalez writes:
>
> >.....
> >   I think Soundblaster is a good option cause it's popular, but I really
> > don't know other (something like SPECTRUM ???.%&$?) Hmm...
> >
> > Jack L.
>
>
> About the way it sounds, you have to differenciate two ways of producing
> sounds.
>
>         - FM synthesis: It's used in the AdLib, Soundblaster/Soundblaster Pro,
>           Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS), etc. You can only produce a limited number
>           of sounds that the FM chip can generate, and you cannot modify any
>           parameters of then (frecuency yes, of course :-). The sound quality
>           is not very good, as the sounds are internally generated in the chip
.
>
> ...
> Jose Manuel Gonzalez                         | TTT I DD

This is not true. The basic of FM synthesis is that you *can*
change every parameter like waveshape, envelope, volume and the
way the generators are connected. Even on a simple Soundblaster
I have seen a program to connect two generators together. And you
can even connect them in a way that there is some resonance that
makes the sound a little more interesting.

Of course the maximum of two generators is a big obstacle when working
with this soundcard. But don't have the newer soundcards the
famous OPL3-chipset, which (but this is mere speculation, since I
forget these technical details very fast...) drive the
Yamaha TG55??? They have got four generators (called operators)
and with those you can build really interesting sounds.

Thus I have to admit, that you are right with your last statement:
the sounds of the standard PC soundcard is not very good. But this
is because of its limited number of generators. And not
because you cannot change them.

achim

bitnet : uj69@dkauni2
internet: uj69@ibm3090.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

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Date:         Mon, 19 Apr 1993 11:52:25 EST
From:         Tom Littlejohn 
Subject:      Re: D-50, MEX (Re: Korg M1 data bank)

On Wed, 14 Apr 1993 13:21:50 CET, Jack Latanowicz wrote:

>
>   What I need is a card with MIDI for PC. But if it is possible it also
>may contain sound generating system or sampler. The best option for me
>is Sb Pro but I still don't know about compatibility of progs.
>What I don't know either is, is it possible to run music thru MIDI and
>from PC at the same time ? (like in KCS on AMIGA)
>  If so, are sounds from PC assigned to MIDI channels, or do they have
>separate channels ?
>
>
I use a SB Pro with Voyetra's Sequencer Plus Classic.  WIth this setup,
MIDI port 1 is the SB's midi port, and port 2 is the SB's internal FM
generator.  You can create sequences that play on both at the same time
by assigning tracks to port 1 or port 2 as desired.  You can also set it
up so that you can use your keyboard's MIDI out to drive the SB's internal
FM generator.

When you use the SB's internal generator, Voyetra provides a driver that
sets up a general MIDI patch set.  If you buy their "gold" version with
librarian, you can supposedly create your own patches.  I have not tried
this, however.

Tom Littlejohn                      Internet: tlit@seq1.loc.gov
Library of Congress                 Phone: (202) 707-9073
Washington, DC                      FAX: (202) 707-0955

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1993 13:08:33 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Korg M1 data bank

Hello everybody !
I am an KORG M1 user. As a sequencer and data storage, I use Commodore
AMIGA 500. My proposition is, to everyone who has Korg M1 - let's create
a data bank (like the existing one for ROLAND D-50).

Also, I have a question. I've heard about a sampler for M1, but I haven't
seen one. If anyone could confirm the existance of such thing...
  (maybe even a price of it if exists)

Thanx for any advice and answer.

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1993 13:06:12 EDT
From:         "JMAGUIRE@ERS" 
Subject:      Re: Korg M1 data bank

On Tue, 6 Apr 1993 13:08:33 CET Jack Latanowicz said:
>Hello everybody !
>I am an KORG M1 user. As a sequencer and data storage, I use Commodore
>AMIGA 500. My proposition is, to everyone who has Korg M1 - let's create

Hi Jack.  Sorry, I don't have any answers to your questions.  I'm interested
in the sequencer you use for the Amiga 500.  Is it Bars and Pipes Pro?
If so, I have some questions for you.

Thanks
John A. Maguire
JMAGUIRE@ERS.BITNET

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Date:         Tue, 6 Apr 1993 09:39:31 -0800
From:         Dave Mickle x5205 
Subject:      Re: Korg M1 data bank

>I am an KORG M1 user. As a sequencer and data storage, I use Commodore
>AMIGA 500. My proposition is, to everyone who has Korg M1 - let's create
>a data bank (like the existing one for ROLAND D-50).

The M1 data bank sounds like a great idea, but since I've got a D550, I'd like
to know the ftp site for the D-50 data bank ;-)

Dave Mickle
CSMC, LA CA

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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1993 18:06:36 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: Korg M1 data bank

Sorry, but no. Right now I use dr.T's software KCS v3.03. I've used
Bars and Pipes a little but it needs more memory and a faster computer
which I haven't got.
   I know that Bars and Pipes is a good prog. and I have a friend who
uses it and knows almost everything about it. If there is something
You would like to discuss, than go ahead maybe I can manage to give
you the answer.

Jack L.





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Date:         Wed, 7 Apr 1993 18:24:00 CET
From:         Jack Latanowicz 
Subject:      Re: Korg M1 data bank

I've found the D-50 data bank in the EMUSIC filelist. Use the LISTSERV to
get it.
  By the way I had very little contact with D-50 (D-550), from what I know
it's not a multi timbral synth, is it true ?

Jack L.

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