issue17

EMUSIC-L Digest                                      Volume 61, Issue 17

This issue's topics:
	
	Cakewalk Resources
	EMU Proteus Banks
	K5 editor (4 messages)
	KURZWEIL TUNING SOFTWARE  (2 messages)
	Let's try this again
	macintosh effects processing...
	MPEG Music?
	pc->mac midi files (3 messages)
	Question for RI (Resident Imbecile) -- netnews (2 messages)
	re download question
	Seqwin
	SYNTH-L (2 messages)
	U-20 Patches

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Date:         Wed, 16 Feb 1994 02:27:14 CST
From:         "Steven T. Awiszus" 
Subject:      Cakewalk Resources

Jeff,
        No problem about the Nick Rothwell debate, consider
it a done deal.
        I have some more info for you.  If you want more
Cakewalk files they can be found at:

        nic.funet.fi    (128.214.6.100)
                under   /pub/msdos/sound/cakewalk

        Also there is a mailing list you can join.  Send
a mail message to:

        LISTERV@LISTS.COLORADO.EDU
                message:  SUBS CAKEWALK 

        That should get you some more info.  Glad to help.
Keep in touch.

                Steve Awiszus
                Electrical/Recording Engineer
                System X Productions, Minneapolis

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Date:         Sun, 27 Feb 1994 16:06:14 -0500
From:         DEMOLITION MAN 
Subject:      EMU Proteus Banks

Hey, what's up?  I have a queation for any/all emu proteus users out there.
I just got a collection of banks for my proteus...the thing is, I have
never loaded new presets into it, and thus have no idea how to do so.
Any brilliant ideas anyone?  BTW, the proteus is onboard the turltle beach
multisound card, if that makes any difference in how it needs to be done.
I guess it has to happen by some kind of midi dump, but I am not sure.

I have another question for you theorists.  When I edit samples, they are
represented in two dimensions.  However, real waveforms travelling through
the atmosphere (a rimshot, for example) obviously exist in three dimensions


My question is, what does the z axis correspond to.  ie If sound  is travell-
ing as an ocean wave, that has an amplitude and a wavelength, then what
does the distance down the long axis of the wave represent.  So if the
wavew is coming straight at me, what difference does how far to my left and
right it goes make?  (Sorry, that was really awkward....)

Thanks,

Phil
sps5251@siena.bitnet

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Date:         Wed, 2 Feb 1994 17:04:01 -0500
From:         Thom Cox 
Subject:      Kawai K5 editor

has anyone heard of a Kawai K5(m) editor that can be downloaded as
software over the net?

thanx,

Thom Cox

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Date:         Thu, 3 Feb 1994 09:53:17 GMT
From:         Philip Jones 
Subject:      K5 Editor

Sorry no I can't find anything for the K5, louie.udel.edu has editors for
the K1 and K4 but no k5, what a downer!

Phil

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Date:         Thu, 3 Feb 1994 14:43:09 MET
From:         Andrea TONI 
Subject:      Re: K5 Editor

Hi,
To my knowledge there are only 2 editor available for the K5
(at least on Atari platform !). One from Dr't and one form a
german company PA_Decoder (the one I have ).
The K5 has tons of parameters and envelopes to display .. so I don't
think that writing a PD editor is a trivial task ..
Anyway try to contact Bob.Weigel@launchpad.unc.edu (not sure if this
is still the right address .. or just send a note on r.m.m.s),
he wrote something for a K5 on a PC

Ciao,
------------------------------------------------ENV---ENV---ENV----------------
 Andrea TONI (andrea@sihp03.si.estec.esa.nl)     |     |     |
 Solar System and Space                         VCO-->VCF-->VCA--> DUCATI 900SS
 Science Division (SO)                           |     |     |
------------------------------------------------LFO---LFO---LFO----------------

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Date:         Thu, 3 Feb 1994 19:08:37 GMT
From:         Keith Hedger 
Subject:      Re: K5 Editor

In article  Andrea TONI
 writes:
>Hi,
>To my knowledge there are only 2 editor available for the K5
>(at least on Atari platform !). One from Dr't and one form a
>german company PA_Decoder (the one I have ).
>The K5 has tons of parameters and envelopes to display .. so I don't
>think that writing a PD editor is a trivial task ..
>Anyway try to contact Bob.Weigel@launchpad.unc.edu (not sure if this
>is still the right address .. or just send a note on r.m.m.s),
>he wrote something for a K5 on a PC
>
>Ciao,
>------------------------------------------------ENV---ENV---ENV---------------
-
> Andrea TONI (andrea@sihp03.si.estec.esa.nl)     |     |     |
> Solar System and Space                         VCO-->VCF-->VCA--> DUCATI
900SS
> Science Division (SO)                           |     |     |
>------------------------------------------------LFO---LFO---LFO---------------
-

there used to be a guy in Tennessee named Jim Chandler who did stuff
for the C64 and the Atari.....I remember he had a K5 editor....someone
at 'Electronic Musician' magazine should be able to put you in touch
with him.....

keith
--
=============================================================
= Keith Hedger| "AAAARRRRGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHRRRRGGGGGHHH"       =
=             |  "S-S-S-S-Stupid !"                         =
=============================================================

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Date:         Mon, 14 Feb 1994 11:35:27 -0500
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" 
Subject:      KURZWEIL MIDI TUNING SOFTWARE FOR MAC (fwd)

Dusenbery, William  writes:
> THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR HELP
> THIS IS FIRST ON THIS LIST I AM NOT SUBSRIBER.
> HVE A FRIEND THAT NEED NON STD TUNING SOFTWARE TO USE WITH MAC
> SYSTEM 7 AND KURZWEIL SAMPLEING KEYBOARD.  HE IS FINISHING
> MASTERS PROJECT AND HAS GREAT NEED DOES ANY ON KNOW OF AN FTP
> SITE FOR THIS INFO WE HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH INTERNET AND BITNET.
> PLEASE REPLY TO MY E_MAIL ADDRESS AS I AM NOT SUBSCRIBED TO THIS LIST
> THANK YOU AGAIN
>

(Please reply directly to William. --- Joe M.)

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Date:         Tue, 15 Feb 1994 21:27:42 +0200
From:         Kostas Moshos-IEMA 
Subject:      Re: KURZWEIL MIDI TUNING SOFTWARE FOR MAC (fwd)

Try to use MAX(tm) from Opcode/IRCAM.
With a little knowledge of MIDI Sysex you can setup your
machine as you wish.
If you are intersting for Tuning tables contact us in
the Institute for Research on Music & Acoustics (GREECE)
kmos@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr
or Adrianou 105, Athens 10558, GR.

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Date:         Mon, 21 Feb 1994 12:03:47 GMT
From:         Philip Jones 
Subject:      re Let's try this again

Don't know about the U20 patches that aren't tarred but in answer to your
question, renaming the .tar file in the file manager will achieve nothing.
The tar program archives anumber of single files into one larg file which
needs to be split up again by the tar program. without it, it is a bit
tricky.

If you have an MSDOS based system there is a file to read tars at
athene.uni-paderborn.de
. You can get this file by ftping the above address and going to directory
/pcsoft/msdos/starter
The file is called tarread.exe and is 14928 bytes long.

Hope this helps
Pj02@ee.ic.ac.uk

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Date:         Mon, 21 Feb 1994 09:31:35 GMT
From:         Apple-O 
Subject:      macintosh effects processing/drum machine/recording programs

Are there any programs out there that turn the mac into an effects processor
(non midi, maybe an interface, plug guitar in, get a line out to amp, prefer
not to use lame midi pickup)?

Any mac drum machine programs? (pref. ones using audio out jack).

Multi-track recording programs? (again, prefer normal inputs/microphones, to
record "live" music, not midi/sequenced stuff)

Any programmers out there interested in corresponding?


--
Apollo

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Date:         Tue, 1 Feb 1994 08:27:55 GMT
From:         "Steven D. Bramson" 
Subject:      MPEG Music?

Herschel A Gelman asks ..

ObEMusic:  Can anyone enlighten me about the MPEG music format?  Is there a
Mac player for songs in this format around?

-----------------------

I believe there is no such format in connection with music.  MPEG is a
standard for full motion video data compression.  Look out for movie titles
coming out on a pair of CDs suitable for CDi and CD-ROM with extra
hardware.  The video quality should be significantly better than VHS and
the standard incorporates digital stereo sound.

 Steven D Bramson    Data Management Group   JET Joint Undertaking
 Abingdon     Oxfordshire              OX14 3EA     United Kingdom
 E-mail sdb@jet.uk   Voice 0235 465 013           Fax 0235 465 399
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 JET is Europe's fusion research project
 Disclaimer: Any views expressed are mine and do not represent those of JET

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Date:         Fri, 25 Feb 1994 14:34:03 AST
From:         Alan Edwards 
Subject:      pc->mac midi files

I know that I have seen this on some list recently, but I didn't need
to know then, and now I do: How do you get PC MIDI files to work on
a Mac ? I recall that it has to do with fiddling something with
ResEdit...could someone please help me out here.

Thanks
Alan Edwards

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Date:         Sat, 26 Feb 1994 15:51:35 +0100
From:         Hendrik Jan Veenstra 
Subject:      Re: pc->mac midi files

Alan Edwards  writes:

>I know that I have seen this on some list recently, but I didn't need
>to know then, and now I do: How do you get PC MIDI files to work on
>a Mac ? I recall that it has to do with fiddling something with
>ResEdit...could someone please help me out here.

Start ResEdit, but don't open a file.  Then do a File/Get File Info and pick
the midifile.  In the dialog that now appears, change the Type to "Midi" (note
the case), and leave the Creator alone.  Close the dialog, save changes and
quit ResEdit.  That's it.


--
Hendrik Jan Veenstra (hjv@phil.ruu.nl)    Dept. of Philosophy
University of Utrecht                     The Netherlands

              I recall how we lived on the corner of a bed...

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Date:         Sat, 26 Feb 1994 10:29:51 EST
From:         "B. Kirsch" 
Subject:      Re: pc->mac midi files

I wrote a program to apply a type and creator to a Standard MIDI file.  It
should be available on ftp sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the directory
info-mac/disk/util or something like that.  I think it is called
 SMFCaster10b3.hqx.
or something close to that.  If yo have any questions, let me know.

Barry Kirsch
bkirsch@nadc.navy.mil

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Date:         Wed, 23 Feb 1994 13:09:02 -0400
From:         William Eldridge 
Subject:      Question for RI (Resident Imbecile) -- netnews

Dear Joe:

Your baby is a fine list -- keep up the good work. I rarely read netnews as I
can reach it only by gophering to Birmingham-UK via MC
Subject:      Re: Question for RI (Resident Imbecile) -- netnews

William Eldridge inquires:
>
>... to which newsgroup is EMUSIC-L gatewayed? How have you got it
>set up?
>
EMUSIC-L is gatewayed to bit.listserv.emusic-l.

The folks at American University, out of which this list is based, have set
up a gateway for us. The "netnews@auvm.american.edu" fake user is
subscribed to the list so it receives all of the mail. It is automagically
forwarded to the netnews server. Postings from the news server are routed
back along the same path (news to fake ID through script to mail to
EMUSIC-L).

Fortunately I don't have to deal with all the details, as getting the daily
crop of bounces fixed is usually enough work. If you were interested in the
specific details, jim@auvm.american.edu (the High Poobah of networking at
AU) is the man to write to.

 --- Joe M.

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Date:         Fri, 18 Feb 1994 13:45:58 GMT
From:         Philip Jones 
Subject:      re download question

Jeff you wrote:

> I have ftp-ed a patch file to my local Internet gateway, but I'm having
trouble downloading to my computer. I have a feeling that it's because the
file extension is one that I am not familiar with. This is the complete
file as I have downloaded it from louie.udel.edu:

                U20-presets.tar.Z

What is .tar.Z? Is this some sort of compression program?
>

The tar.Z is a suffix showing that the file has been compressed twice. To get
 rid of the Z extension you can try 'get'ting the file without the Z suffix and
 the ftp site may
uncompress it for you. Failing that if you are on a unix based system type
uncompress filename.tar.Z and you will be left with an uncompressed file called
file.tar. To then untar it you can try
                tar -xf filename.tar
this should work, if not you'll have to look through some manual pages.

Hope this helps.

Phil JOnes (pj02@ee.ic.ac.uk)

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Date:         Wed, 2 Feb 1994 09:40:28 GMT
From:         Philip Jones 
Subject:      Seqwin

Does anyone own seqwin, the sequencer package for MSWindows and have the
mail address for them please?

Phil

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Date:         Mon, 14 Feb 1994 18:20:48 CST
From:         FA19000 
Subject:      SYNTH-L

How do I subscribe to SYNTH-L?
                            Janice Saffir
Northeast MO State U        FA19%NEMOMUS@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Kirksville                  FA19@NEMOMUS.BITNET

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Date:         Tue, 15 Feb 1994 09:54:40 -0500
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" 
Subject:      Re: SYNTH-L

Janice Saffir writes:
>
> How do I subscribe to SYNTH-L?
>                             Janice Saffir
> Northeast MO State U        FA19%NEMOMUS@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
> Kirksville                  FA19@NEMOMUS.BITNET
>
I have taken care of it for you, but to do it, simply send mail to
listserv@auvm.american.edu with the text

sub synth-l 

(The brackets aren't necessary, they're just there to show you where
your name should go.) To unsubscribe, send

unsub synth-l

to the same address.

 --- Joe M.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Jan 1980 18:46:25 CST
From:         "Steven T. Awiszus" 
Subject:      U-20 Patches

Jeff,

        Sorry about ticking you of with the debate I had
with Nick Rothwell.  No harm was meant.

        Here is some info on U-20 patches:

        ucsd.edu                /midi/Patches
        louie.udel.edu          /pub/midi/Patches

These sites hold U-20 and U-220 patches I believe.

        Also there is a users group list you can subscribe
to:

        Roland U20/U220         phantom@nwu.edu(James Choi)

Hopefully this will help!

                Steve Awiszus
                Electrical/Recording Engineer

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