issue18

EMUSIC-L Digest                                      Volume 68, Issue 18

This issue's topics: Resource searches
	
	Quest for literature
	Looking for MIDI Magazine (3 messages)
	Quest for literature
	Digitech address?
	Wendy Carlos & Old Business
	FTP sources for SD samples?
	Berklee bbs (2 messages)
	THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...
	Older synthesis recordings
	THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... (2 messages)
	Wendy Carlos CD
	THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE... (2 messages)
	Wendy Carlos CD
	Digidesign Email?
	THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...
	Music Resource Guide...
	buying instruments
	Books on songwriting
	buying instruments
	Books on songwriting
	USE OF TECHNOLOGY IN MUSIC EDUCATION

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Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 10:59:48 +0200
From:         Shlomo Dubnov 
Subject:      Quest for literature

I have a small budget available for literature on computer music and I'm looking
for recent (last year or two) recommended publications. The books are for a
computer science library and will be used by students of an introductory course
on computer music. The scope of interest is large - from formal processing and
 AI
to perception and signal processing.
Thank you in advance,
Shlomo Dubnov

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Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 07:15:00 EDT
From:         "Cammarota, Joe" 
Subject:      Looking for MIDI Magazine

I am having some difficulty in locating a copy of MIDI magazine.

I would like to subscribe (is it worth it?)
If anyone could send me the publishers address and /or phone number I would
be grateful.

If anyone would be willing to mail me a subscription card, let me know and
I'll send you my land mail address.

Joe
Cammarota@dfssmtp.nadc.navy.mil

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Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 11:19:13 EDT
From:         Ray Brunelle 
Subject:      Re: Looking for MIDI Magazine

I'm not sure if they are still in business.

I subscribed some time ago.
Got 4 issues and haven't heard a peep more...

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Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 12:58:59 -0500
From:         "Tim H. Harrison" 
Subject:      Re: Looking for MIDI Magazine

On Mon, 12 Sep 1994, Ray Brunelle wrote:

> I'm not sure if they are still in business.
>
> I subscribed some time ago.
> Got 4 issues and haven't heard a peep more...
>

Yeah, I asked them to send me a trial issue a few months ago.  They sent
me the bill, but no issue.

Tim

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Date:         Mon, 12 Sep 1994 14:13:57 -0500
From:         wpruett 
Subject:      Re: Quest for literature

Here are some good books on computer music, the latest ones I've found--
 Title: Computer music : synthesis, composition, and performance / Charles Dodge, Thomas A. Jerse.
Publisher: New York : Schirmer Books, c1985. Subjects: Computer music--Instruction and study.
           Computer composition.

Moore, F. Richard. Elements of Computer Music. Englewood Cliffs, NJ:
Prentice-Hall, 1990.
$38.00 + $4.00 shipping UPS surface
ISBN: 0-13252-552-6
Lots of stuff on software synthesis, and more, all centered around cmusic

  Title: The liberation of sound : an introduction to electronic music / by Herbert Russcol ; new introduction
by Otto
                      Luening ; preface by Jacques Barzun.
Publisher: New York : Da Capo Press, 1994.
Series   : Da Capo Press music reprint series
    Notes: Reprint. Originally published: Englewood Cliffs, N.J. : Subjects: Electronic music--History and
criticism.
     ISBN: 0-306-76263-3 : $35.00

TITLE:   Foundations of computer music / ed. by Curtis Roads [and] John
Strawn
 EDITION: 3rd print. IMPRINT: Cambridge, Massachusetts, [etc.] : MIT Press, 1987 * XX, 712 p.
; 23
          cm
 NAMES:   Roads, Curtis * Strawn, John ISBN:    0-262-68051-3 m * 0-262-18114-2 v



There is also supposed to be a bibliography available from ftp.cs.ruu.nl
in MIDI/DOC/bibliography.
Please let me know if you find anything more current.
Hope this helps.

William Pruett
WPRUETT.ucs.indiana.edu

On Mon, 12 Sep 1994, Shlomo Dubnov wrote:

> I have a small budget available for literature on computer music and I'm
 looking
> for recent (last year or two) recommended publications. The books are for a
> computer science library and will be used by students of an introductory
 course
> on computer music. The scope of interest is large - from formal processing and
 AI
> to perception and signal processing.
> Thank you in advance,
> Shlomo Dubnov
>
>

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Date:         Thu, 15 Sep 1994 21:52:24 +1000
From:         Merlin Zener 
Subject:      Digitech address?

G'day all,

Can anyone tell me the email address for Digitech?

--
Cheers:)

Merlin Zener                             Ph/fax:           +61 75 766 594
Musician, Technician                     Mobile:           +61 18 779 594
Gold Coast, Australia.                   email: merlin@merlin.edex.edu.au

           "Research shows that no-one ever went blind from
                  looking on the bright side of life"

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Date:         Thu, 15 Sep 1994 16:13:32 EDT
From:         "william.b.fox" 
Subject:      Wendy Carlos & Old Business

> To: Bill Fox 
> Date:         Thu, 23 Jun 1994 23:46:00 PST
> From: att!VTBIT.CC.VT.EDU!AMERICAN.EDU!owner-emusic-l
> Subject:      Re: Non-Drum Rhythms
>
> How about a description of the Wendy Carlos CD.  I haven't heard of it.
> Please provide enough info so that I may order it somewhere.  Thanks
> Barry Klein

"Secrets of Synthesis" by Wendy Carlos on CBS MK42333

CONTENTS:
1. Introduction
2. Examples of Analog Timbres
3. Choral Tone, Vibrato, Articulation
4. Vocal Synthesis
5. Performance Values
6. Simple Orchestration
7. Electronic Pointillism & Hocketing
8. For Spatial Motion
9. Ensemble Performance Via Click-tracks
10. Imitative Synthesis
11. Musique Concrete Plus Synthesizer
12. Orchestra with Synthesizer
13. Digital Synthesis
14. Digital vs. Analog
15. Hybrid Timbres
16. Alternative Tunings - The Future

Notes by the composer:

For the past seven or eight years I've given occaisional talks and
demonstrations of "Electronic Orchestration" on both coasts and in
Europe.  These have been mostly unscripted and informal affairs,
combining many brief musical examples with the spoken word in a quickly
paced presentation.

Each time the question has come up:  "Why don't we make this sort of
thing available on a commercial recording?"  Associates and friends in
the business have been patiently trying to convince me that I really
ought to do just that.  It would also satisfy the thousands of similar
requests that we've received ever since "S-OB" seemingly erupted onto
the music scene back in 1968.  For all of you who cared enough to ask
for explanations of "how it all was done," or "inside tips" and the
like, this record is my attempt to answer your requests.  I hope you
enjoy it!  -Wendy Carlos

I hope this is what you wanted to know.  I quite enjoy listening to it
periodically.

Bill Fox        wbf@aloft.att.com

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Date:         Fri, 16 Sep 1994 09:35:44 -0400
From:         Jon Crystal 
Subject:      FTP sources for SD samples?

I recently acquired an old FZ-1 and Sound Designer II software, and am
curious about recommendations on FTP sources for interesting (i.e. weird,
not acoustic emulations) samples in Sound Designer or SND  format to
download.

Thanks for any suggestions


Jon

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Date:         Fri, 16 Sep 1994 11:16:37 -0400
From:         Thom 
Subject:      Berklee bbs

Hi all,

I have misplaced the dial-up number for the Berklee School of Music
bbs server.  Does anyone know it off-hand

many thanks,

Thom
nec_twc@flo.org

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Date:         Fri, 16 Sep 1994 13:12:41 -0400
From:         Bob Ceely 
Subject:      Re: Berklee bbs

Hi there THOM;
the number is 424-8318
Don't forget to advertise the ELECTRIC WEDNESDAY CONCERT on
NOVEMBER 2.
cheers
RPC

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Date:         Fri, 16 Sep 1994 17:10:07 EDT
From:         "Mark D. Hanson" 
Subject:      THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...

THERE'S JUST GOTTA BE!!

-       Yes, I'm from AOL, please be forgiving...

-       Am tired of "new" music that is simply a few hours of
        flowing parallel 5th's with Star Wars "blaster" shots
        thrown in...

-       There are some wonderful samples of "real" instruments
        and even "nature's" instruments  with some very creative
      uses
thereof...that's great...but there's more

-             Serialism and musical algorithms are fascinating but from
              the human soul what is next?

But WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP!!!  From whence cometh the next wave???

Has anyone heard it?  Are there definitions?  Are there feelings or
thoughts...

There are more musical doors out there yet to be penetrated...what lies
through them???

YOU are those that can speak of innovation...what is it??

WHAT IS IT???

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Date:         Fri, 16 Sep 1994 16:26:22 -0500
From:         Joe McMahon 
Subject:      Older synthesis recordings

>You might want to find that old CRI record (not
>CD) called "Columbia/Princeton Electronic Music Center, 10th Anniversary"
>(Maybe
>try the Berkshire Record Outlet?)
Yep. I think there's been a reissue of some of the other stuff out of the
C/PEMC, but as I remember, it didn't include Arel's "Stereo Electronic
Music #1" which is a big favorite of mine - mine sounds like it was
recorded in a bacon cook-oof right now -  nor did it have Babbitt's
"Composition for Synthesizer" (the only Babbitt I've ever heard, but really
like and can even remember sections of).

I did, however, see a CD with Subotnick's "The Wild Bull" and "Silver
Apples of the Moon" just last week. When, oh, when will they re-release
"Sidewinder"?!

 --- Joe M.

--
"This trumpet is flatlining!" (MST3K, "Mr. B. Natural")

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Date:         Sat, 17 Sep 1994 10:28:10 -0400
From:         Bill Matthews 
Subject:      Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...

>
> WHAT IS IT???
>

ah... last days of the 20th c. zeitgeist:  the completely self-referential
post.

Bill M.

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Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 08:35:51 -0700
From:         atomic city 
Subject:      Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...

Mark D. Hanson jotteth....
>
>-       Yes, I'm from AOL, please be forgiving...

No comment.

>-             Serialism and musical algorithms are fascinating but from
>              the human soul what is next?
>
>But WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP!!!  From whence cometh the next wave???
>
>Has anyone heard it?  Are there definitions?  Are there feelings or
>thoughts...
>
>There are more musical doors out there yet to be penetrated...what lies
>through them???
>
>YOU are those that can speak of innovation...what is it??
>
>WHAT IS IT???

Semiserious answer:

Everyone has a particular direction in which they like to explore;
mine is in timbral evolution and work with aural space within the
context of (admittedly) fairly conventional and simple
western-European compositional forms. Others here explore sound
construction from the bits up, or atonality, or Markov Chains, or the
physical modeling of the oboe. Getting advice is nice, but you don't
NEED a guide to lead someplace interesting in the Undiscovered
Country. As you walk, the scenery suggests new and exciting places to
go, and as you follow it, you learn more and can travel farther,
faster, and better. There is no particular 'next step' for our future,
unless one considers the will of the masses (i.e. MTV's flava of the
week) to carry the most weight. Some of the composers we admire today
were the pop stars of their eras; others were despised iconoclasts.
When they were alive, no one could pick which of them would be
remembered years hence or why, and I doubt many of them cared; they
explored because they had to, and posterity would remember them or
not. We all know who Bach was, and this gang probably all knows who
Harry Partch was, but who's to say what of the things we do now is
'the next wave'? It's not for us to decide. Our job is to do what we
think and feel we must.

Flip answer:

"Whaling songs. Whaling songs. I went on vacation to Maine, I heard
these four young guys singing...like BIRDS. I went off my nut. I fell
on my bum. I couldn't believe it. It's all A capella, a capella,
acapella. No drums. No guitars. No moo-g. Nothing. The rest of this
stuff? Rock and roll? In the dumper. In the dumper. Down the
Toidy. Jazz? Down the toidy. Flush it. FWSSSH. This is it, Mel. Whaling
songs, Trust me. Whaling songs. Oh, and I'm leaving ya a little
present, a little snowstorm in July if ya know what I mean...."

                 --Paul Shaffer, from years before Late Night,
                   when he was with the National Lampoon

--
mike metlay * atomic city * box 81175 pgh pa 15217-0675 * atomic@netcom.com
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"Oh drat, these computers are so naughty and so complex,
 I could just PINCH them."                                  (m. t. martian)

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Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 17:29:04 GT+3
From:         Hermann Henning Rauth 
Subject:      Wendy Carlos CD

Does anyone know a e-mail address anywhere in the world that I could
get this Wendy Carlos CD "Secrets of Synthesis", via credit card ???
A mail address or even a phone number would be ok, too...

Hermann Henning Rauth
rlat1@rla01.pucpr.br

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Date:         Mon, 19 Sep 1994 15:17:33 EDT
From:         "BARNES,LARRY J." 
Subject:      Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...

Dear searcher, try Steve Reich and Joseph Schwantner before 1983.

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Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 10:49:18 +0100
From:         Nick Rothwell 
Subject:      Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...

>Getting advice is nice, but you don't
>NEED a guide to lead someplace interesting in the Undiscovered
>Country.

I keep getting mugged.

(One for allegory fans.)


    Nick Rothwell     CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance     nick@cassiel.com

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Date:         Tue, 20 Sep 1994 18:19:43 -0500
From:         David Sowder 
Subject:      Re: Wendy Carlos CD

>Does anyone know a e-mail address anywhere in the world that I could
>get this Wendy Carlos CD "Secrets of Synthesis", via credit card ???
>A mail address or even a phone number would be ok, too...
>
>Hermann Henning Rauth
>rlat1@rla01.pucpr.br

You might try telnetting to cdconnection.com.  It is an on-line CD
"store".  I don't know for sure if what you're looking for is there, but
it's very likely.

Disclaimer:  I am in no way affiliated with cdconnection.com.  I was
just impressed with what they have to offer when I discovered it a few
days ago.

David Sowder
Assistant Director of Information Services
Southwestern Adventist College
Keene, TX
sowderd@vaxine.swac.edu

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Date:         Wed, 21 Sep 1994 16:14:02 -0400
From:         Jon Crystal 
Subject:      Digidesign Email?

Anyone know an email address for Digidesign?

Thanks,

Jon

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Date:         Wed, 21 Sep 1994 17:06:14 -0700
From:         "Shawn T. Rutledge" 
Subject:      Re: THERE'S GOTTA BE MORE...

> "Whaling songs. Whaling songs. I went on vacation to Maine, I heard
> these four young guys singing...like BIRDS. I went off my nut. I fell
> on my bum. I couldn't believe it. It's all A capella, a capella,
> acapella. No drums. No guitars. No moo-g. Nothing. The rest of this
> stuff? Rock and roll? In the dumper. In the dumper. Down the
> Toidy. Jazz? Down the toidy. Flush it. FWSSSH. This is it, Mel. Whaling
> songs, Trust me. Whaling songs. Oh, and I'm leaving ya a little
> present, a little snowstorm in July if ya know what I mean...."

:-)

Reminds me of a similar lament from a guy who appeared on The Prairie Home
Companion and claimed he had invented whaling songs, and got cheated out
of the proper credit and respect.  He said many of those things, as well
as some puns about Whalin' Jennings and The Whalers etc.  Obvious he wasn't
being original at all - or else Shafer wasn't - or else it is an ironic
coincidence.

--
  _______                KB7PWD - now on packet!      shawn.rutledge@asu.edu
 (_  | |_)               html: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~rutledge/home.html
 __) | | \__________________________________________________________________
* quantize the universe * freedom of information * C++ * Interpedia *
   *** Happy Birthday to the Internet!  May it live long and prosper. ***

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Date:         Fri, 23 Sep 1994 12:42:23 PST
From:         "Roger I. Ramnath" 
Subject:      Re[2]: Music Resource Guide...

>Where does one check out EM?

EM, or Electronic Musician is a magazine.  I think subscriptions are $29/year.
You should be able to find a copy at a large book store, music store or
magazine stand...

Roger

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Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 14:41:00 +0200
From:         Jose Manuel Adan 
Subject:      buying instruments

 hello
  My name is Jose Adan and i live in Spain(Europe). I am looking
  for a shop in U.S where I can buy some instruments like a electric guitar
  and a effects process unit by mail. Can anyone help me?
   Thank you!
   my email is lgzadgaj@lg.ehu.es
                                   yours
                                   Jose

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Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 09:39:34 GMT+1200
From:         Craig Jewiss 
Subject:      Books on songwriting

Hi.  As my email address shows, I'm from New Zealand.

I'm interested in finding books on practical songwriting (in
particular, in the areas of rock and film scores).  Book resources in
NZ range from vague to non-existent.

A local music store told me about a series of books published by Mix
Bookshelf.  The salesman from this store had bought a couple while
he was in New Orleans, but he hasn't been able to track down an agent
for NZ.

So my two questions are:

1.  Has anyone heard of Mix Bookshelf, and how can I contact them.

2.  Can anyone recommend other publications that handle songwriting
techniques, in a practical fashion.

Thanks for any help.
================================================
Craig Jewiss, CNE         Systems Engineer
National Library of New Zealand
ph: 64 4 4743072

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Date:         Tue, 27 Sep 1994 20:34:50 EDT
From:         Phil Bednarski 
Subject:      Re: buying instruments

Dear Jose,
Try Musician's Friend at 1-503-772-5173.
Phil

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Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 08:36:31 LCL
From:         "Colin T. Smith" 
Subject:      Re: Books on songwriting

Craig, you can get in touch with the people at Mix Bookshelf at:

6400 Hollis St. #12
Emeryville, Ca. 94068 USA
(800) 233-9604

This will get you their catalog.

Colin

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Date:         Wed, 28 Sep 1994 11:07:05 -0400
From:         Jennifer Hurley-Wales 
Subject:      USE OF TECHNOLOGY IN MUSIC EDUCATION

I am looking for information on the use of technology (cd-roms, long-
distance learning) in music education.  Any suggestion of other
bulletin boards, or sources of information?

Thank you!

jennifer Hurley-Wales New England Conservatory
NEC_HURLEY@FLO.ORG

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